So here I'm trying to search for Haven fanfiction that isn't on fanfiction.net or AO3, and it seems it's become quite difficult to find fanfiction that isn't on those sites (or livejournal, I guess, because it's usually connected to the communities). I don't know if it's because it's not there and people just don't post to their own websites anymore or if I've got out of the habit of looking and google never shows those things anywhere near the beginning of the pages when you do search. But I remember zipping around different fic archives and personal websites after fic and that... doesn't seem to happen anymore. Is it me failing to find things, because I've got lazy and don't have so much internet time anymore, or have things really got so much more centralized?
(It would be really nice to have a Haven fic archive that wasn't just the sections on AO3 and fanfiction.net...)
In the same sort of vein, I've been nattering to![[profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
kattahj the last few days about how I don't get Twitter (or Tumblr), they both seem kind of bizarre and difficult to follow and I don't understand how they work and have never signed up to either. And this is for much the same reason I'm probably a bit out of touch with ficdom, because I don't have the internet at home and in fact deliberately restrict how much time I spend on the internet by NOT having it at home. Because if it's there, I'm on it, and nothing else gets done -- and I did that for a few years, then consciously moved house and did not get the internet with the determination that I would Do Things that didn't involve spending my entire life sat at the computer. Which has worked, but the time that I have now is not really enough to keep up with everything the way I used to, 6, 7 years ago.
Then there are new things which come along, and I don't sign up to them, because I don't have the time for that. But I'm really wondering if I'm starting to get a bit lost behind it all, as people I've been in touch with move on to other mediums for fannish communication and in terms of the technology and platforms I'm still basically where I was at 6-7 years ago, when I decided I wouldn't get the internet in the new flat and would restrict myself to a couple of hours four or five days a week just to check email, download fic and stuff to read/watch/listen to at home, and check livejournal.
Plus it's not really enough time to get into epic discussions and swapping comments, and generally not at hours of the day conducive to chat (which I've gotten out of the habit of at all), and by the time I go back to threads they can be days old, so it's a bit isolating at the speed of things in internet-land. Especially since I'm not staggering communicative a fairly large percentage of the time anyway. I mean, I still read my flist. Most people probably haven't had a comment from me in over a year, if ever, and probably barely remember the last time they saw me post, since certainly for a while it averaged less than once a month.
Just musing...
(It would be really nice to have a Haven fic archive that wasn't just the sections on AO3 and fanfiction.net...)
In the same sort of vein, I've been nattering to
kattahj the last few days about how I don't get Twitter (or Tumblr), they both seem kind of bizarre and difficult to follow and I don't understand how they work and have never signed up to either. And this is for much the same reason I'm probably a bit out of touch with ficdom, because I don't have the internet at home and in fact deliberately restrict how much time I spend on the internet by NOT having it at home. Because if it's there, I'm on it, and nothing else gets done -- and I did that for a few years, then consciously moved house and did not get the internet with the determination that I would Do Things that didn't involve spending my entire life sat at the computer. Which has worked, but the time that I have now is not really enough to keep up with everything the way I used to, 6, 7 years ago.Then there are new things which come along, and I don't sign up to them, because I don't have the time for that. But I'm really wondering if I'm starting to get a bit lost behind it all, as people I've been in touch with move on to other mediums for fannish communication and in terms of the technology and platforms I'm still basically where I was at 6-7 years ago, when I decided I wouldn't get the internet in the new flat and would restrict myself to a couple of hours four or five days a week just to check email, download fic and stuff to read/watch/listen to at home, and check livejournal.
Plus it's not really enough time to get into epic discussions and swapping comments, and generally not at hours of the day conducive to chat (which I've gotten out of the habit of at all), and by the time I go back to threads they can be days old, so it's a bit isolating at the speed of things in internet-land. Especially since I'm not staggering communicative a fairly large percentage of the time anyway. I mean, I still read my flist. Most people probably haven't had a comment from me in over a year, if ever, and probably barely remember the last time they saw me post, since certainly for a while it averaged less than once a month.
Just musing...
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I don't know if I've seen those discussions on LJ, which is my primary fandom hangout, so I'm unaware that they're happening or that this is an ongoing issue for lots of fandom folks. When I've ever ventured onto Tumblr and Twitter it's because Kattahj is on there. I can't say I hate it because I haven't the first clue how it works!
I've kind of lost track of fandom, since for a few years the only things I was interested in being fannish about were manga series never been properly translated into English. And things moved on. So everything off LJ and the ever-annoying FFN is a big mystery now.
Then again, there have always been outlets that I don't have the time for -- I always avoided message boards and forums like the plague, and preferred mailing lists. It's got more to do with time and practicality probably. I don't have internet at home, or any of the portable devices with net access, so I steal a couple of hours most days on my parents' old PC, or a half-hour at the library, or sneak a peek at my email at work, and that's how it's been for about 7 years since I decided to pull the plug and told myself "you WILL have a life that does not involve sitting in front of the computer 24/7". LOL.
Sorry, shutting up now! You probably weren't expecting a novel. :)
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And, lies! I was totally expecting a novel. That's what journalspace is for. ;)
A lot of LJ discussion of late has been on fail-fandomanon, which is a really fascinating melting pot. It's also an anon meme, so it moves way too fast, is hard to keep track of, and is often full of the venting of spleen. I'm hoping the non-anon DW discussion com takes off, but I'm not holding my breath. Part of my own problem and one I've seen a lot of people mention is that I used to use journals in a way where I spent a ton of time really keeping up with my flist. (We could also call this "college procrastination".) Now that marathon internet use of that type isn't practical for me anymore on a regular basis, I have trouble even bothering with journals. (Except, as you've noticed, when I have a new fandom or a specific topic, and I use site search to see who has said something recent that I can driveby comment on.) FFA I can still do because it only requires marathon internet use sporadically, but whenever I'm busy, I completely forget about it. Tumblr is exciting for its visual aspects, godawful in its communication and keeping track of things aspects, and perfectly lovely if you're trying to avoid the guilt of flist ?skip=500. There's just no expectation that you're consistently keeping up with things or spending hours at one go (even though lots of people are). Twitter is the same way: if you weren't on that time of day, you missed things. Their ephemerality is less than ideal in many, many ways, but it's helpful in the short term for managing my bad internet habits. I find that wasting too much time is less of an issue for me than feeling stressed because I'm "behind" on something I was "supposed" to be keeping up with. (Of course, tumblr users who keep those 'fuckyeah[topic]' tumblrs that function like fandom newsletters do have incentive to keep up with the massive amounts of content, but I don't feel that pressure.)
All hail archives, I guess. I loved the archive+mailing list era of fandom and am happy to see such large numbers of Tumblrites using AO3.
I was not digging Tumblr initially, but I have to say it does have one amazing feature, which is the ability to disseminate ultra-rare fandom stuff usefully. This was the first year I used it to advertise Parallels (rare Asian media fanworks exchange), and I was able to find people so much better than on LJ where most of those fandoms are, by definition, too small for coms, a lot of the coms are dead, and a lot of drama/anime/tokusatsu fandom was never really centralized like that to begin with. But man is it crap for archiving and finding things again.
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It's ironic that I would be arguing for journaling and etc. as a forum since I tend to be not all that wordy anyway. :D
Actually, Haven already has a way bigger fandom than most of the things I've been into in the last decade since Angel/BtVS finished up. It's so nice that there's actual fandom again! *does the dance of joy* Small but enthusiastic, right? :)